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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 4:54 pm    Post subject: 155443 Pte. John Vambley Reply with quote

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This one is a bit of a puzzle, a private stone on a CWGC grave. CWGC give the rank as Private but the gravestone says Captain. He is not listed on SNWM so no help there. Any ideas?

Name: LAMBLEY
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Royal Army Medical Corps
Date of Death: 05/10/1918
Service No: 155443
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: I. 126. 3.
Cemetery: ANNAN CEMETERY


Minister of Religion ( Salvation Army) 33 Moat Road, Annan, called up July 1918. He died at Flyde Auxiliary Hospital, Kirkham of Influenza / Pneumonia, age 34, b Gt. Gowerton,Lincolnshire, e Dumfries. Widow residing Woodbridge, Guildford - Nov 1919. 33 Moat Road Annan in 1918.

Nothing to indicate any earlier service.
Headstone is in error.

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This one is a bit of a puzzle, a private stone on a CWGC grave.

Private headstone is no puzzle - the family have declined a CWGC headstone. It was their choice.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 5:00 pm    Post subject: Peter Charles Henderson - Civilian Reply with quote

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This is a private stone on a CWGC grave. As a civilian casualty, this would be difficult to find - he was one of those killed in the bombing of the Masonic Hall in Gretna, 1941.

Name: HENDERSON, PETER CHARLES
Initials: P C
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Civilian
Regiment/Service: Civilian War Dead
Age: 62
Date of Death: 07/04/1941
Additional information: Son of Mary Henderson, of Aberdour Cottages, Huntly, Aberdeen, and of the late William Henderson; husband of Ada Jane Henderson, of White Cottage, Carlisle Road, Annan. Died at Masonic Hall, Gretna.
Casualty Type: Civilian War Dead
Reporting Authority: DUMFRIES COUNTY, SCOTLAND



This grave has nothing to do with CWGC, it is privately owned.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 5:15 pm    Post subject: Re: 155443 Pte. John Vambley Reply with quote

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This one is a bit of a puzzle, a private stone on a CWGC grave. CWGC give the rank as Private but the gravestone says Captain. He is not listed on SNWM so no help there. Any ideas?

Name: LAMBLEY
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Royal Army Medical Corps
Date of Death: 05/10/1918
Service No: 155443
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: I. 126. 3.
Cemetery: ANNAN CEMETERY


Minister of Religion ( Salvation Army) 33 Moat Road, Annan, called up July 1918. He died at Flyde Auxiliary Hospital, Kirkham of Influenza / Pneumonia, age 34, b Gt. Gowerton,Lincolnshire, e Dumfries. Widow residing Woodbridge, Guildford - Nov 1919. 33 Moat Road Annan in 1918.

Nothing to indicate any earlier service.
Headstone is in error.



So likely a "Captain" in the Salvation Army and given that title on his gravestone rather than his military rank????
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So likely a "Captain" in the Salvation Army and given that title on his gravestone rather than his military rank????


Ken

I would think so. It is certainly not his military rank at his death.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The postings are a bit mixed alphabetically so here is a list of those posted so far.

Adamson, John Johnstone. RCoS 14/12/42 Page 4
Aitchison, David. SG 4/11/31 Page 4
Aitchison, John. KOSB 14/9/15 Page 4
Alcock, David. RSF 20/10/16 Page 8
Alcock, Sydney. RNZAF 25/6/42 Page 1 CWG
Allan, John. RN 7/11/18 Page 2 CWG
Anderson, James. KOSB 22/10/16 Page 8
Armstrong, George Haining. RS 12/4/18 Page 8
Armstrong, James. KOSB 31/7/17 Page 8
Beattie, Francis W. KOSB 30/4/17 Page 4
Beattie, James Thomson. KOSB 27/6/43 Page 1 CWG
Bell, Alexander P. KOSB/MGC 12/9/17 Page 4
Bell, Andrew Maxwell. RAF 22/1/1982 Page 8
Bell, David William. RAF 23/5/37 Page 4
Bell, Ralph Grierson. MN 10/9/39 Page 3 CWG
Bland, John. BW 31/7/17 Page 4
Broatch, John James Nichol. Civilian 7/4/41 Page 8
Brown, William Scott. MN 9/2/43 Page 8
Bryden, Richard Arthur. RAF 4/5/42 Page 1 CWG
Burt, William. RAF 1/1/43 Page 1 CWG
Caldwell, Laurence. KOSB 31/1/17 Page 8
Caldwell, James Yuille. MGC 27/6/18 Page 8
Carroll, John Joseph. RA 14/2/42 Page 4
Carruthers, Christopher G. CIF 9/4/17 Page 4
Carruthers, Richard E. S. KOSB 4/8/15 Page 4
Caviney, M. RN 16/3/19 Page 1 CWG
Clark, Peter Maxwell. RAAF 23/6/43 Page 1 CWG
Currie, Hugh. RM 1/3/42 Page 4
Dixon, Derek Richard Sydney. RNZAF 14/8/42 Page 1 CWG
Douglas, Archibald. RAMC 3/5/17 Page 8
Duncan James Hume. CH 28/4/17 Page 4
Duncan Robert Hume. CH 25/9/15 Page 4
Fattig, Robert Dale. RCAF 28/2/43 Page 1 CWG
Fleming, William. RAF 9/10/41 Page 3 CWG
Fox, Robert. RA 10/8/43 Page 1 CWG
Gane, Albert Leslie. RAAF 8/7/42 Page 1 CWG
Goodsir, Jacques Thorfinn. RAF 15/6/42 Page 1 CWG
Graham, Thomas Edwin. BR 5/5/18 Page 5
Graves, William Donald. RCAF 23/6/43 Page 1 CWG
Grierson, Adam Smith. KOSB 30/4/45 Page 5
Grierson, William John, RA 1/2/44 Page 5
Halliday, James. KOSB 25/9/15 Page 8
Henderson, Peter Charles. Civilian 7/4/41 Page 3
Hicks, Walter Marvin. RCAF 15/4/43 Page 1 CWG
Hill, William Macduff. RGA 5/10/16 Page 9
Hood, John. ASC 29/9/18 Page 9
Hopper, David. SR 2/11/17 Page 5
Houghton, Samuel. RN 31/5/16 Page 5
Huntington, George. RFA 29/11/18 Page 9
Hyslop, John Peter. SR 7/11/18 Page 5
Innes, Frank. RAF 13/7/36 Page 5
Irving, William. CIF 23/9/15 Page 5

Jackson Frederick George. RSF 11/11/1932 Page 5
Jamieson, John. Lancs. Fus. 3/4/18 Page 9
Jardine, Douglas Johnston, GH 4/5/18 Page 3
Jardine, Robert Johnston, KOSB 17/8/14 Page 3 CWG
Jesty, Raymond George. RAF 27/8/43 Page 1 CWG
Johnston, Robert William. RASC 16/1/43 Page 5
Johnstone, Halbert Russell. Imp. Yeo. 6/1/1902 Page 5
Johnstone, Samuel Anderson. Seaforth H. 24/10/42 Page 9
Kennedy, Robert Van. RCAF 26/2/43 Page 2 CWG
Laidlaw, William. A&SH 12/6/17 Page 9
Lambley, John. RAMC 5/10/18 Page 3 CWG and Page 10
Laurie, Alastair Fletcher. RN FAA 5/6/42 Page 2 CWG
Linton, Edward Smith. RAF 4/2/19 Page 9
Linton, Matthew. A&SH 16/7/16 Page 9
Lister, David. KOSB 5/9/15 Page 5
Lister, Stewart. RSF 9/4/18 Page 5
Louden, Alexander. KOSB 26/7/1900 Page 5
Louden, David Little. CMR 31/10/17 Page 5
Lupton, Richard. RN 27/4/19 Page 5
Lupton, William Scott. RAC 28/4/44 Page 9 CWG
Matthews, J. DLI 28/2/18 Page 2 CWG
Maxwell, Leslie. RAF 23/4/19 Page 6
McAndrew, Alexander Campbell. MN 28/4/17 Page 6
McCarton, John Robert Maxwell. KOSB 30/8/1980 Page 6
McCulloch, George. KOSB 12/7/15 Page 6
McCulloch, Robert Squince. HLI 21/2/17 Page 6
McDonald, William John. ASC 19/1/17 Page 9
MacDougall, David Graham Mather. KOSB/KAR 27/7/17 Page 6
McGowan, Thorburn. RA 15/9/47 Page 6
McLean, Robert. SAHorse 4/1/17 Page 6
McMillan, Harold Roy. RCAF 25/8/42 Page 2 CWG
Nelson, James Maxwell. CMR 29/9/16 Page 6
Nicholson, Daniel. KOSB 3/9/16 Page 6
Nicholson, George. RSF 30/7/16 Page 6
Peattie, P. Alexander. CIF 24/2/15 Page 9
Peattie, George Reid. CIF 28/9/18 Page 9
Pool, David. CIF 21/9/18 Page 3 CWG
Pool, William. CIF 28/9/18 Page 3
Posva, Karel. RAF 24/4/43 Page 2 CWG
Rae, John Andrew. SR 22/8/17 Page 6
Rae, William. Liverpool Regt. 27/9/18 Page 9
Randall, Ernest Lloyd. RCAF 25/8/42 Page2 CWG
Reid or Reed, Jeremiah Twentyman. Civilian 7/4/41 Page 6
Renwick, David Byers. KOSB 15/9/16 Page 6
Richardson, Christopher. KOSB 10/5/17 Page 3
Robertson, William Gordon. RSF 25/6/44 Page 7
Robieson, Te Roki. RAF 8/7/42 Page 2 CWG
Robinson, Christopher Richardson. RAF 4/5/42 Page 3 CWG
Robinson James Hope. SH 26/7/18 Page 6
Rodgers, Thomas H. KOSB 12/7/15 Page 7
Ross, Joseph. BW 13/12/15 Page 7

Scaife, John. RAF 3/9/44 Page 7
Scaife, Robert George. GH/RE 28/5/16 Page 7
Schoolar, Archibald William H. KOSB 11/3/48 Page 7
Scott, Henry James. CH 29/9/15 Page 3 CWG
Scott, James. KOSB 12/7/15 Page 9
Scott, William. HLI 29/11/17 Page 9
Semple, Alexander Tweedie. Yorks. Regt. 26/9/44 Page 7
Semple, Joh George. KOSB 30/5/40 Page 7
Shackell, Cecil Robert Frank. RAF 6/12/42 Page 2 CWG
Shannon, John McGinlay. KOSB 28/6/46 Page 9
Sharkey, Walter. RN 8/10/19 Page 3 CWG
Simpson, Peter. A&SH 12/10/17 Page 7
Sinclair, David Williamson. RAMC/RS 22/10/18 Page 7
Skeats, Thomas George. RAF 1/12/44 Page 2 CWG
Skilling, Robert. SG 28/10/14 Page 7
Skoblack, Peter. RCAF 28/4/43 Page 2 CWG
Smith, Robert. KOSB 24/4/17 Page 8
Staley, Charles Wood. RAF 22/9/42 Page 2 CWG
Thompson, Robert. HLI 24/10/17 Page 3 CWG
Thomson, George. KOSB 18/4/18 Page 7
Thomson, William. BW 13/11/16 Page 7
Thorburn, James. SR 5/4/18 Page 7
Tinning, David. RE 3/8/42 Page 2 CWG
Trodden, George. KOSB 4/10/17 Page 7
Trodden, James. KOSB 6/5/15 Page 7
Trodden, Robert. KOSB 13/8/15 Page 7
Tweedie, Alexander. KOSB 19/4/17 Page 7
Tweedie, Cunningham Burnside. KOSB 17/4/17 Page 7
Tweedie, Francis. RN 22/9/57 Page 7
Vivers, John. RSF 27/10/15 Page 8
Walker, John James. SR 23/8/17 Page 8
Walker, James. KOSB 9/8/15 Page 8
Walker, Thomas. KOSB 6/9/15 Page 8 CWG
Wilkin, Robert. RAF 8/9/41 Page 3 CWG
Wilson, Albert Goodrich. KOSB 19/8/18 Page 3 CWG
Wood, Angus Marcell. RAF 30/1042 Page 2 CWG
Woodhouse, Edward. KOSB 21/1/16 Page 3 CWG
Woodhouse, Thomas. CIF 16/9/16 Page 3 & 4
Woodman, John Scott. RN 25/1/43 Page 9
Wynnychuk, William Robert. RCAF 22/9/42 Page 2 CWG


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 7:01 pm    Post subject: Jeremiah Twentyman Reed Reply with quote

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Another of those killed in the Gretna bombing. Note the discrepancy with the spelling of his name between the gravestone and CWGC.

Jeremiah Twentyman Reid
killed by enemy action 7 April 1941
aged 37 years


The spelling on CWGC ( REED) will have been provided / verified by the family. It is also the spelling his death was recorded under.
Interestingly there are two different spellings on the headstone.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2015 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kinnethmont wrote:
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So likely a "Captain" in the Salvation Army and given that title on his gravestone rather than his military rank????


Ken

I would think so. It is certainly not his military rank at his death.


We were contacted by Hazel Jones, granddaughter of John Lambley, who confirmed that the headstone is indeed not an error - he was a Captain in the Salvation Army.

She advised that he was stationed at Annan SA Corps and joined up in July 1918, only to die in training.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that up-date David.

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