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Roxy



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Location: Elgin, Moray

PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 7:33 pm    Post subject: Elgin Cemetery Reply with quote

There are a fair few graves here, so it is likely to take me some time. The cemetery contains the graves of 2 VC winners:

Admiral Sir Martin Eric Dunbar-Nasmith; RN (VC won in the Sea of Marmara, Turkey in 1915) and Lt William Rennie; 90th Perthshire Light Infantry (VC won at Lucknow, India in 1857).

I have yet to find either.

The graves I photographed today will be added to the Forum tomorrow.

Roxy

PS. From CWGC site:

Cemetery: ELGIN NEW CEMETERY
Country: United Kingdom
Locality: unspecified
No. of Identified Casualties: 54
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Remembering my ggf, Pte Thomas Roberts, 10 SR, killed 25 Sep 15 at Loos.
Also remembering Flt Lt Al Squires and CXX/3 killed 2 Sep 06 in Afghanistan.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The site http://www.victoria-cross.co.uk/ has details of the Victoria Cross holders and the site owner (Les) will be interested in what you find and may even have some info on the gravestone location.

\Paul
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Roxy



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paul,

Thanks. I had another wander around the cemetery today - and got a few more photos. Still no sign of the VC winners though!

I'll check out your link and see if it provides any help.

Roxy
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Remembering my ggf, Pte Thomas Roberts, 10 SR, killed 25 Sep 15 at Loos.
Also remembering Flt Lt Al Squires and CXX/3 killed 2 Sep 06 in Afghanistan.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:09 pm    Post subject: Jim Stronach Reply with quote



Name: STRONACH, JAMES
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Serjeant
Regiment/Service: Gordon Highlanders
Unit Text: 5th Bn.
Age: 21
Date of Death: 31/07/1916
Service No: 2303
Additional information: Son of James and Annie Stronach, of The Glebe, Speymonth, Fochabers, Morayshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Pier and Face 15 B and 15 C.
Memorial: THIEPVAL MEMORIAL
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Remembering my ggf, Pte Thomas Roberts, 10 SR, killed 25 Sep 15 at Loos.
Also remembering Flt Lt Al Squires and CXX/3 killed 2 Sep 06 in Afghanistan.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:10 pm    Post subject: Moody and James Grant Reply with quote



and a close up of the inscription:


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Remembering my ggf, Pte Thomas Roberts, 10 SR, killed 25 Sep 15 at Loos.
Also remembering Flt Lt Al Squires and CXX/3 killed 2 Sep 06 in Afghanistan.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:10 pm    Post subject: John Norman Gourlay Reply with quote



Name: GOURLAY
Initials: J N
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Second Lieutenant
Regiment/Service: Seaforth Highlanders
Unit Text: 2nd Bn.
Age: 20
Date of Death: 01/07/1916
Additional information: Son of Frederick and Mary Gourlay, of Rathmore, Elgin.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: III. A. 41.
Cemetery: PARGNY BRITISH CEMETERY
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Remembering my ggf, Pte Thomas Roberts, 10 SR, killed 25 Sep 15 at Loos.
Also remembering Flt Lt Al Squires and CXX/3 killed 2 Sep 06 in Afghanistan.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:11 pm    Post subject: Alex George Gill Reply with quote



Name: GILL, ALEXANDER GEORGE
Initials: A G
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Pilot Officer (Obs.)
Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
Date of Death: 07/08/1941
Service No: 89587
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Sec. H. South Div. Grave 36.
Cemetery: ELGIN NEW CEMETERY
_________________
Remembering my ggf, Pte Thomas Roberts, 10 SR, killed 25 Sep 15 at Loos.
Also remembering Flt Lt Al Squires and CXX/3 killed 2 Sep 06 in Afghanistan.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:11 pm    Post subject: J Russell Reply with quote



Name: RUSSELL, JAMES
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Seaforth Highlanders
Unit Text: 7th Bn.
Age: 21
Date of Death: 27/10/1940
Service No: 2822991
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Sec. H. South Div. Grave 40.
Cemetery: ELGIN NEW CEMETERY
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Remembering my ggf, Pte Thomas Roberts, 10 SR, killed 25 Sep 15 at Loos.
Also remembering Flt Lt Al Squires and CXX/3 killed 2 Sep 06 in Afghanistan.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:12 pm    Post subject: B C Chinnery Reply with quote



Name: CHINNERY, BRUCE CHARLES
Initials: B C
Nationality: Canadian
Rank: Pilot Officer (Nav.)
Regiment/Service: Royal Canadian Air Force
Unit Text: 158 (R.A.F.) Sqdn
Age: 23
Date of Death: 30/10/1944
Service No: J/91127
Additional information: Son of Charles W. Chinnery and Madeline Chinnery; husband of Leata Findlay Cruickshank Chinnery, of Nairn.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Sec. L. South Div. Grave 277.
Cemetery: ELGIN NEW CEMETERY
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Remembering my ggf, Pte Thomas Roberts, 10 SR, killed 25 Sep 15 at Loos.
Also remembering Flt Lt Al Squires and CXX/3 killed 2 Sep 06 in Afghanistan.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:13 pm    Post subject: E Woodliffe Reply with quote


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Remembering my ggf, Pte Thomas Roberts, 10 SR, killed 25 Sep 15 at Loos.
Also remembering Flt Lt Al Squires and CXX/3 killed 2 Sep 06 in Afghanistan.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


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Remembering my ggf, Pte Thomas Roberts, 10 SR, killed 25 Sep 15 at Loos.
Also remembering Flt Lt Al Squires and CXX/3 killed 2 Sep 06 in Afghanistan.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:15 pm    Post subject: W Shaw Reply with quote



Name: SHAW, WILLIAM
Initials: W
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Second Lieutenant
Regiment/Service: Seaforth Highlanders
Unit Text: 2nd Bn.
Date of Death: 01/07/1916
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Pier and Face 15 C.
Memorial: THIEPVAL MEMORIAL
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Remembering my ggf, Pte Thomas Roberts, 10 SR, killed 25 Sep 15 at Loos.
Also remembering Flt Lt Al Squires and CXX/3 killed 2 Sep 06 in Afghanistan.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:16 pm    Post subject: C Keil Reply with quote



Name: KEIL
Initials: C
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Seaforth Highlanders
Unit Text: 6th Bn.
Date of Death: 04/12/1916
Service No: 2922
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: K. South. 156.
Cemetery: ELGIN NEW CEMETERY
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Remembering my ggf, Pte Thomas Roberts, 10 SR, killed 25 Sep 15 at Loos.
Also remembering Flt Lt Al Squires and CXX/3 killed 2 Sep 06 in Afghanistan.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:16 pm    Post subject: W Russell Reply with quote



Name: RUSSELL
Initials: W
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Corporal
Regiment/Service: Seaforth Highlanders
Unit Text: 6th Bn.
Date of Death: 14/03/1916
Service No: 2889
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: K. South. 123.
Cemetery: ELGIN NEW CEMETERY
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Remembering my ggf, Pte Thomas Roberts, 10 SR, killed 25 Sep 15 at Loos.
Also remembering Flt Lt Al Squires and CXX/3 killed 2 Sep 06 in Afghanistan.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:17 pm    Post subject: John Martin Urquhart Reply with quote



This man is post WW2 regarding CWGC but, thanks to Adam Brown, I have some information:

URQUHART, JOHN MARTIN
Rank: Nav 3
Service: Royal Air Force
Service Number: 3020898
Station: RAF Kabrit
Place of Birth/Home Town: NEWBURGH, FIFE
Date of Birth: 03 April 1925
Age: 23
Date of Death: 22 May 1948
Cemetery Name: BRITISH NEW WAR CEMETERY
Cemetery Address: HAIFA, PALESTINE
Grave Number: F C 19
Included on Armed Forces Memorial: Yes
Included on Roll of Honour: Yes

He was actually killed by the Egyptian Air Force

From

http://www.britains-smallwars.com/Palestine/raf.htm

The Union Jack was finally lowered in Palestine on 14th May 1948. The next day the independent state of Israel was proclaimed. Within hours, Spitfire IXs of the Royal Egyptian Air Force attacked Tel Aviv and Sde Nov Airfield. One of their aircraft was lost to ground fire, salvaged and subsequently used by the newly created Israeli Air Force.

On the morning of 22nd May, REAF Spitfires attacked Ramat David Airfield where the RAF was still in occupation to cover the final withdrawal of the remaining British forces. Five Spitfires were destroyed on the ground and four airmen killed. Another Spitfire was written off when it crashed during takeoff. RAF Spitfires of a No.208 Squadron detachment shot two of the Egyptian attackers down and a third was lost to fire from Corporal Farent of 52 Rifle Squadron, RAF Regiment with a Bren gun. The Egyptians eventually apologized for the 'unfortunate incident' and explained the error by claiming that they thought the airfield had been taken over by the Israelis. A few days later the RAF left Palestine forever.
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Remembering my ggf, Pte Thomas Roberts, 10 SR, killed 25 Sep 15 at Loos.
Also remembering Flt Lt Al Squires and CXX/3 killed 2 Sep 06 in Afghanistan.


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