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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:30 pm    Post subject: Mar and Valley Cemeteries, Stirling Reply with quote

Location: Location: Castle Wynd, Stirling FK8 1EG
Map Ref: NS 792 937

No of CWGC Burials: Mar Cemetery: 34 Valley Cemetery: 10

Mar and Valley Cemeteries are two of the five 'Top of the Town' graveyards which surround Stirling Castle. The other three graveyards are: Ballangeich, Snowdon and Holy Rude Churchyard (which is listed on CWGC as 'East and West Churchyard')

CWGC have these Cemeteries listed separately but for the purpose of this project, they have been grouped together. The CWGC Burials will state which Cemetery, family stones will be listed alphabetically

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote





The following details have been listed alphabetically. The names on the stone would have been in alphabetical order but it appears that Pte. M. P. Sweeney and Pte. F. Ross may have been added at a later date.

Name: BEASLEY
Initials: F M
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Army Veterinary Corps
Unit Text: Lowland Div. Vet. Hospital
Date of Death: 17/12/1917
Service No: SE/30352
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Z. 14.
Cemetery: STIRLING (MAR PLACE) CEMETERY

Name: BROWN, JOHN MACKINTOSH
Initials: J M
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Serjeant
Regiment/Service: Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders
Unit Text: 4th Bn.
Age: 33
Date of Death: 18/08/1914
Service No: 7011
Additional information: Son of James and Margaret Mackintosh Brown; husband of Isabella Boswell Brown, of 24, Baker St., Stirling.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: YZ. 12.
Cemetery: STIRLING (MAR PLACE) CEMETERY

Name: CHAKASUAM, NONA
Initials: N
Nationality: Canadian
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Canadian Forestry Corps
Age: 19
Date of Death: 07/07/1918
Service No: 2497985
Additional information: Son of Joannes Jacozom and his wife Anna Kostachin.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: YZ. 16.
Cemetery: STIRLING (MAR PLACE) CEMETERY

Name: CLARK
Initials: P
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: 1st (Royal) Dragoons
Date of Death: 11/04/1919
Service No: D/4979
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: YZ. 12.
Cemetery: STIRLING (MAR PLACE) CEMETERY

Name: DALLAS
Initials: W
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Gordon Highlanders
Unit Text: 11th Bn.
Date of Death: 07/04/1916
Service No: S/11260
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: YZ. 15.
Cemetery: STIRLING (MAR PLACE) CEMETERY

Name: DORMAN, WILLIAM JOHN
Initials: W J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Rifleman
Regiment/Service: Royal Irish Rifles
Unit Text: 16th Bn.
Secondary Regiment: Labour Corps
Secondary Unit Text: transf. to (593769) 459th Coy.
Age: 32
Date of Death: 22/10/1918
Service No: 240
Additional information: Son of Carlisle and Alice Dorman.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: YZ. 13.
Cemetery: STIRLING (MAR PLACE) CEMETERY

Name: FEELEY
Initials: P
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders
Date of Death: 20/06/1918
Service No: 4/7737
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: YZ. 15.
Cemetery: STIRLING (MAR PLACE) CEMETERY

Name: FOWLER
Initials: C
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Army Veterinary Corps
Unit Text: Lowland Div. Vet. Hospital
Date of Death: 05/06/1917
Service No: SE/27341
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: YZ. 17.
Cemetery: STIRLING (MAR PLACE) CEMETERY

Name: GOLDIE
Initials: S
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Sapper
Regiment/Service: Royal Engineers
Date of Death: 04/08/1915
Service No: 2926
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: YZ. 17.
Cemetery: STIRLING (MAR PLACE) CEMETERY

Name: GRAY
Initials: D
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Serjeant
Regiment/Service: Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders
Unit Text: 12th Bn.
Date of Death: 19/12/1916
Service No: 37
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: YZ. 16.
Cemetery: STIRLING (MAR PLACE) CEMETERY

Name: KIRK
Initials: A
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Royal Army Ordnance Corps
Date of Death: 15/03/1915
Service No: 04018
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: YZ. 31.
Cemetery: STIRLING (MAR PLACE) CEMETERY

Name: LAMOND, HUGH
Initials: H
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders
Unit Text: 10th Bn.
Secondary Regiment: Labour Corps
Secondary Unit Text: transf. to (386818)
Age: 35
Date of Death: 23/08/1919
Service No: 19938
Additional information: Son of Hugh and Kate Lamond.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: YZ. 12.
Cemetery: STIRLING (MAR PLACE) CEMETERY

Name: LYON, DAVID
Initials: D
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Highland Light Infantry
Unit Text: 3rd Bn.
Age: 25
Date of Death: 19/05/1916
Service No: 20204
Additional information: Son of Marjory Lyon, of 88, Annfield Rd., Dundee, and the late Thomas Lyon.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: YZ. 17.
Cemetery: STIRLING (MAR PLACE) CEMETERY

Name: McKINNON, JOHN
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Driver
Regiment/Service: Royal Engineers
Unit Text: 2nd/2nd Field Coy. Lowland Div.
Age: 46
Date of Death: 23/04/1915
Service No: 2426
Additional information: Husband of Annie McKinnon, of 23, George St., Paisley, Renfrewshire. Born at Baillieston, Glasgow.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: YZ. 31.
Cemetery: STIRLING (MAR PLACE) CEMETERY

Name: MILNE
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Gordon Highlanders
Unit Text: 3rd Bn.
Date of Death: 27/07/1915
Service No: 551
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: YZ. 13.
Cemetery: STIRLING (MAR PLACE) CEMETERY

Name: ROSS
Initials: F
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Labour Corps
Age: 18
Date of Death: 24/02/1918
Service No: 464565
Additional information: Son of Elizabeth Ross, of 166, Ark Lane, Cormiston Terrace, Dennistoun, Glasgow, and the late George Ross.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: YZ. 18.
Cemetery: STIRLING (MAR PLACE) CEMETERY

Name: ROWE
Initials: A
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Staff Serjeant
Regiment/Service: Army Service Corps
Unit Text: 1021st Coy. (Stirling)
Age: 38
Date of Death: 23/10/1918
Service No: T/14967
Additional information: Son of the late Mary Rowe, of Bodmin, Cornwall.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: YZ. 14.
Cemetery: STIRLING (MAR PLACE) CEMETERY

Name: SMITH
Initials: E
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Black Watch (Royal Highlanders)
Secondary Regiment: Labour Corps
Secondary Unit Text: transf. to (459354)
Age: 31
Date of Death: 12/12/1918
Service No: S/11103
Additional information: Husband of Euphemia Cairney Smith, of Fernlea, Esplanade, Oban, Argyll.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: YZ. 14.
Cemetery: STIRLING (MAR PLACE) CEMETERY

Name: SWEENEY
Initials: M P
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders
Unit Text: 3rd Bn.
Date of Death: 01/12/1917
Service No: 3/7734
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: YZ. 11.
Cemetery: STIRLING (MAR PLACE) CEMETERY

Name: WILSON
Initials: A
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Serjeant
Regiment/Service: Military Provost Staff Corps
Date of Death: 02/11/1918
Service No: T/2155
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: YZ. 14.
Cemetery: STIRLING (MAR PLACE) CEMETERY
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a lot of names on a single gravestone. Do you know why they did not all have separate stones?

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know Paul, this is the first time I've come across a stone like this. You can't tell from the photo, but the stone is around 5/6 feet tall.

They've all got separate grave reference numbers so I expect they were all buried within a small area immediately beside it - maybe this was a standard type stone elsewhere and they just thought they would use it here?

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Name: AITKEN, EDWARD MALTMAN
Initials: E M
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Gunner
Regiment/Service: Royal Artillery
Unit Text: 506 Coast Regt.
Age: 39
Date of Death: 07/02/1942
Service No: 1426666
Additional information: Son of Edward Maltman Aitken and Mary Ramsay Aitken; husband of Christina Aitken, of Stirling.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Compt. H. Grave 28.
Cemetery: STIRLING (VALLEY) CEMETERY

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Name: BLUE, JOHN
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Serjeant
Regiment/Service: Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders
Unit Text: 10th Bn.
Date of Death: 13/10/1939
Service No: 3126723
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Compt. YZ. Grave 8.
Cemetery: STIRLING (MAR PLACE) CEMETERY

Name: CORNS, TOM WEBSTER
Initials: T W
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Royal Army Ordnance Corps
Age: 29
Date of Death: 28/04/1942
Service No: 1691244
Additional information: Son of Thomas Webster Corns, and of Ann Edwards Corns, of Prescot, Lancashire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Compt. YZ. Grave 10.
Cemetery: STIRLING (MAR PLACE) CEMETERY

Name: ROBINSON, BENJAMIN DAVID
Initials: B D
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Sapper
Regiment/Service: Royal Engineers
Unit Text: 237 Field Coy.
Age: 20
Date of Death: 21/06/1940
Service No: 1877348
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Compt. YZ. Grave 8B.
Cemetery: STIRLING (MAR PLACE) CEMETERY

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Name: DAVIE, PETER
Initials: P
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Flying Officer (Nav.)
Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
Age: 22
Date of Death: 15/07/1944
Service No: 170752
Additional information: Son of Peter C. Davie and Margaret A. Davie, of Stirling.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Row A. Grave 24.
Cemetery: STIRLING (VALLEY) CEMETERY

Name: DAVIE, JAMES
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Second Engineer Officer
Regiment/Service: Merchant Navy
Unit Text: S.S. Sambut (London)
Age: 37
Date of Death: 06/06/1944
Additional information: Son of Peter and Margaret Davie; husband of Jane Davie, of Stirling.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 91.
Memorial: TOWER HILL MEMORIAL





Work is underway to re-erect fallen stones in these cemeteries - a few sections are cordoned-off whilst the work is being carried out. (Summer 2007)


Mod edit: Adam

The S.S Sambut was an American Liberty Ship in British service. 2nd Engineer Officer Davie was killed along with 18 soldiers when the ship
was shelled off Dover by German long range guns in Calais.

More details here:


http://www.bbc.co.uk/ww2peopleswar/user/12/u1643312.shtml

Sad to see both Davie brothers died with a few weeks of each other.

apanderson wrote:
Work is underway to re-erect fallen stones in these cemeteries - a few sections are cordoned-off whilst the work is being carried out. (Summer 2007)


At least Stirling Council are re-erecting the stones. The vandals at Edinburgh council are not doing a thing. At least when they knock them over now they try and put the inscription face up.
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Name: FORRESTER
Initials: D
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders
Unit Text: 11th Bn.
Date of Death: 20/11/1915
Service No: S/6431
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: C. 45.
Cemetery: STIRLING (VALLEY) CEMETERY

Surname FORRESTER
Firstname David
Service Number 6431
Date Death 20/11/1915
Place of birth Stirling
Other 11th Bn.
SNWM roll THE ARGYLL AND SUTHERLAND HIGHLANDERS
Rank Pte
Theatre of death F.& F.

David Forrester is not listed on the inscription. Neither, it seems are any of his direct family.

The pyramid in the background of the second photograph is the Covenanter Memorial which sits between Valley Cemetery and Stirling Castle Esplanade.

Listed on Stirling Civic Memorial: http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=59&mforum=warmemscot



From David Forrester's Service Record:
Attested: Dunblane, 6th November 1914
Address: 23 Forth Crescent, Stirling (or 'Lyndwood', Forth Crescent, Stirling)
Age: 20 years, 320 days
Occupation: Fishmonger
Religion: Presbyterian
Description: Blue eyes, auburn hair, fair complexion. Height 5' 6 1/4".
Next of Kin: Mother, Jane Forrester nee Scott (no mention of father)

Died at 8.20 p.m., 1st Eastern General Hospital, Cambridge after having served 1 year and 5 days.

Cause of death: Gun shot wound - thorax. Suffocation from haemorrage into trachea.

According to the 1891 Census, David's parents Arthur (age 37) & Jane Forrester (age 27) were living at 38 Murray Place, Stirling. Arthur's occupation was listed as Fish Merchant.

By 1901, Jane (age 37) was head of the household living at 40 Barnton Street. Her occupation is listed as Fishmonger.

I can't find a death for an Arthur Forrester anywhere in Scotland (apart from Arthur & Jane's son Arthur who died in 1959, Stirling) so perhaps they separated or if he died, then it was somewhere outwith Scotland.


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Name: GILMOUR, GEORGE LOW
Initials: G L
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Second Lieutenant
Regiment/Service: Royal Engineers
Date of Death: 12/08/1917
Age: 30
Additional Information: Husband of Jean Cullens
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: GH. 26.
Cemetery: STIRLING (MAR PLACE) CEMETERY



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Name: GLENNIE, The Rev. JOHN DOUGLAS
Initials: J D
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Chaplain 4th Class
Regiment/Service: Royal Army Chaplains' Department
Age: 43
Date of Death: 30/09/1940
Service No: 34719
Additional information: Son of Charles Emslie Glennie and Elizabeth Johnston Glennie; husband of Margaret Murison Glennie, of West Linton, Peeblesshire. M.A., B.D.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Compt. H. Grave 8.
Cemetery: STIRLING (MAR PLACE) CEMETERY

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Name: JENKINS, ARCHIBALD
Initials: A
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Gunner
Regiment/Service: Royal Garrison Artillery
Unit Text: 22nd Northern Scottish Fire Command
Date of Death: 12/07/1918
Service No: 163142
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: L. 127.
Cemetery: STIRLING (VALLEY) CEMETERY



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Name: JENKINS, JOHN ALEXANDER
Initials: J A
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Flight Cadet
Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force
Unit Text: 114th Sqdn.
Date of Death: 22/09/1918
Additional information: Son of John and Lillias Jenkins. Born at Stirling.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: N. 21.
Cemetery: STIRLING (VALLEY) CEMETERY



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Name: JOHNSTON, ALEXANDER DAVID
Initials: A D
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Serjeant
Regiment/Service: Royal Army Medical Corps
Age: 36
Date of Death: 06/11/1919
Service No: 81707
Additional information: Son of David and Matilda Johnston; husband of Helen Macfarlane Johnston, of 11, Princes St., Stirling.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: H. 23.
Cemetery: STIRLING (VALLEY) CEMETERY

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Name: JOHNSTON, GEORGE ERSKINE
Initials: G E
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Northumberland Fusiliers
Unit Text: 1st Bn.
Age: 30
Date of Death: 11/04/1918
Service No: 61325
Additional information: Son of the late James Johnston, of Stirling.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 20 to 22.
Memorial: LOOS MEMORIAL

Name: JOHNSTON, GILBERT H.
Initials: G H
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Second Lieutenant
Regiment/Service: Royal Flying Corps
Date of Death: 15/12/1917
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: O. 51.
Cemetery: STIRLING (MAR PLACE) CEMETERY





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Name: KING, HUGH
Initials: H
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Gunner
Regiment/Service: Royal Garrison Artillery
Unit Text: No 3 Depot
Date of Death: 15/12/1917
Service No: 190168
Additional information: Son of John and Mary Bennet King, of Blair Drummond; Husband of Sarah M. King, of 11, Princes Street, Stirling.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: K. 55.
Cemetery: STIRLING (VALLEY) CEMETERY

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